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    "text": "from"
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    "text": "Welcome"
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    "text": "The Rode & Schwarz Technology Podcast Headlines shout about AI that writes"
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    "text": "speaks"
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    "text": "draws even codes Despite the noise, The quieter story is in your pocket."
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    "text": "Artificial intelligence that could make your phone connect better!"
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    "text": "Hello and welcome."
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    "text": "I'm Inga Müller-Siedentop"
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    "text": "Today we are talking about the kind of AI"
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    "start": 57.36,
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    "text": "from Mobile World Congress"
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    "text": "The bus is all the same and it's known as AIRAN."
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    "text": "That stands for artificial intelligence in the radio access network."
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    "text": "If that's new to you think of the Radio Access Network As the front line of mobile connectivity, the antennas and cell sides that link your phone To the network or actually every device within the mobile coms ecosystem."
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    "text": "To guide us through what's hype and whats real, we've invited someone who works on this everyday."
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    "text": "Joining from the Rode & Schwarz r&d team is Andreas Ödemann an electrical engineer and AI-RAN expert."
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    "text": "Andreas welcome to the show!"
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    "text": "Thanks for having me great to be here."
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    "text": "So Andreas let start with the elevator pitch."
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    "text": "What is the general idea of AI"
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    "text": "You mentioned it in your introduction already."
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    "text": "so the promises of AI ran as we bring together advanced artificial intelligence with wireless communication And then they can deliver better performance more reliability and efficiency for the wireless network."
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    "text": "so basically that the RAM is um... ...the infrastructure you can see deployed all around us think of as a first mile towards the mobile networks."
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    "text": "and another topic here, in other use cases how can we make best use of our mobile network in the future to support the performance such applications?"
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    "text": "on-device in the cloud or what is called Edge Cloud, closer to you while delivering good performance but also keeping a mind that we want to have better life with your smartphone and making it energy efficient."
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    "text": "So as of now we talked about AI that optimises given brands like optimisers And then it also will be important to have a future ready radio access network that kind of supports every AI application."
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    "text": "That we'll be next, right?"
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    "text": "Talking about optimizing the performance of our infrastructure by itself using artificial intelligence."
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    "text": "on the other hand there's ran site."
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    "text": "So supporting emerging AI applications that are put on top of this mobile infrastructure, basically"
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    "text": "Thank you very much for sharing."
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    "text": "We learned a lot in the session about infrastructure everywhere we rely every day and there is some pretty cool technology use case where Rode and Schwartz directly enables the future kind"
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    "start": 1213.379,
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    "text": "Thank you for sharing, thank you for your time being here."
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    "text": "Lily thanks for having me!"
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    "start": 1218.139,
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    "text": "Yeah Andreas Thanks a lot."
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    "text": "I learned also very much And i'm excited to see what mobile communication provides in the future."
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