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    "text": "(laughs)"
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    "text": "Welcome to Software Testing Unleashed."
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    "text": "My name is Richie and I have a new episode recorded live"
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    "text": "at the Istanbul Software Testing Conference 2026."
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    "text": "My guest was Ard Kramer and we talked about"
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    "text": "which mental abilities get you into the flow"
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    "text": "that asks you questions. All that you find out in this episode."
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    "text": "Enjoy!"
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    "text": "Hello Ard, great to have you in the show."
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    "text": "It’s my honor to be here."
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    "text": "It’s great you had the keynote today."
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    "start": 115.14,
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    "text": "especially for you."
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    "text": "hey, that’s good for me, then I don’t have to use my brains."
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    "text": "use these kinds of things."
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    "text": "\"Okay, this is it,\" and having a discussion."
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    "text": "Richie,"
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    "start": 240.22,
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    "text": "\"Oh, that’s an interesting angle."
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    "start": 242.9,
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    "text": "I haven’t looked at it.\""
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    "text": "Of course, you can use AI, but it also ends with humans."
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    "text": "We have to check."
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    "text": "We need to do that."
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    "text": "That also means that we have a lot of work still to do."
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    "start": 278.92,
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    "text": "That’s true."
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    "text": "You mentioned abilities and capabilities."
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    "start": 284.96,
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    "text": "Maybe we can use the time and go through this."
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    "text": "Yes."
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    "start": 289.6,
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    "text": "Maybe I should ask you if you can reproduce them."
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    "text": "I just have the icons in my brain."
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    "start": 295.3,
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    "text": "We will come back to that and I will mention it."
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    "text": "uh, so it was concentration motivation."
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    "text": "\"I’m going to test,\" but that’s an activity."
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    "start": 843.88,
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    "start": 844.21,
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    "start": 850.76,
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    "start": 851.46,
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    "start": 880.42,
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    "start": 889.78,
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  {
    "start": 890.24,
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    "text": "well done,"
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    "start": 891.54,
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    "text": "yeah,"
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  {
    "start": 892.26,
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    "start": 893.42,
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    "text": "\"and there was a nice atmosphere, and I just did it,"
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    "start": 899.14,
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    "start": 907.02,
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  {
    "start": 907.4,
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    "start": 908.2,
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    "text": "yeah,"
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    "start": 922.68,
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    "start": 926.8,
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    "start": 928.32,
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    "start": 929.74,
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    "start": 933.18,
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    "text": "Oh, yeah."
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    "start": 933.76,
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    "text": "That’s a very good question because you’re hitting the nail perfectly."
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    "start": 948.24,
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    "start": 949.78,
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    "text": "Let’s be clear about that."
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    "start": 950.84,
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    "text": "I didn’t mention it,"
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    "start": 952.04,
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    "text": "but also like these little bastards."
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    "start": 955.12,
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    "start": 955.84,
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    "text": "They also distract you a lot."
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    "start": 959.5,
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    "start": 968.7,
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    "start": 978.45,
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    "text": "Yeah."
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    "start": 979.21,
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    "text": "It’s also quite interesting and I also did that in"
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    "start": 984.3,
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    "start": 987.96,
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    "text": "but I know it triggers your brain."
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    "start": 989.97,
    "end": 990.26,
    "text": "Yeah."
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    "start": 991.71,
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    "text": "Does I trigger your brain if I ask you a question?"
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  {
    "start": 994.15,
    "end": 994.5,
    "text": "Yeah."
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  {
    "start": 996.06,
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    "text": "It works."
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    "start": 997.0,
    "end": 997.74,
    "text": "Yeah, it works."
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    "start": 999.12,
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    "text": "So that’s also how you can use AI."
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    "start": 1000.86,
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    "text": "Ask him questions or ask him to ask questions to you."
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    "start": 1005.04,
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    "start": 1006.28,
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    "start": 1009.38,
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    "text": "which is, use it or lose it."
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    "start": 1010.98,
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    "text": "So you’ll have to do the thinking."
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    "start": 1014.48,
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    "start": 1017.1,
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    "text": "That’s the best thing you can use it,"
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    "start": 1018.7,
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    "text": "so that you still,"
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    "text": "because you are still responsible for the result."
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    "start": 1022.28,
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    "text": "Yeah."
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    "start": 1023.74,
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    "text": "Yeah, and if you come back to your boss and say,"
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    "start": 1028.959,
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    "text": "And your boss said, \"That is garbage.\""
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    "start": 1031.22,
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    "text": "You can’t tell your boss it was AI."
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    "start": 1033.8,
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    "text": "You are responsible."
  },
  {
    "start": 1035.1,
    "end": 1035.78,
    "text": "That’s true, yeah."
  },
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    "start": 1035.819,
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    "text": "You are responsible."
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    "start": 1037.16,
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    "start": 1039.52,
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    "text": "You can’t outsource your brain."
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    "start": 1041.9,
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    "text": "Maybe that’s the conclusion."
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    "start": 1043.72,
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    "text": "And use it or lose it."
  },
  {
    "start": 1045.06,
    "end": 1046.62,
    "text": "Use it or lose it, yes, definitely."
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    "start": 1047.339,
    "end": 1047.6,
    "text": "Great."
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  {
    "start": 1047.98,
    "end": 1049.98,
    "text": "Thank you very much for this insights,"
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  {
    "start": 1050.14,
    "end": 1051.48,
    "text": "for your experience,"
  },
  {
    "start": 1051.78,
    "end": 1052.9,
    "text": "your metaphors for this."
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  {
    "start": 1052.98,
    "end": 1055.559,
    "text": "I think this is very valuable for us as testers"
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  {
    "start": 1055.56,
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    "text": "and even more important in the next months and years for us."
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  {
    "start": 1058.48,
    "end": 1059.22,
    "text": "Oh yeah, for many years."
  },
  {
    "start": 1059.22,
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    "text": "So I hope a lot of people can reflect on that"
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  {
    "start": 1061.9,
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    "text": "and get into their daily life."
  },
  {
    "start": 1064.56,
    "end": 1065.84,
    "text": "Thank you so much that you are here"
  },
  {
    "start": 1065.9,
    "end": 1067.3,
    "text": "and enjoy the rest of the conference."
  },
  {
    "start": 1067.56,
    "end": 1068.26,
    "text": "Thanks for having me."
  },
  {
    "start": 1068.4,
    "end": 1068.92,
    "text": "Thank you very much."
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    "start": 1070.9,
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    "text": "(upbeat music)"
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