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    "text": "that is probably not in your interest\neither."
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    "start": 631.6,
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    "start": 646.12,
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    "text": "Tailwind is amazing,\nand even though you can, of course,"
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    "start": 657.56,
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    "text": "code again or have AI write it,\neven though that's all true,"
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    "start": 661.46,
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    "start": 668.579,
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    "text": "I really hope they can find a way to\nmonetize their"
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  {
    "start": 672.38,
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  {
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    "text": "It will be many,\nmany businesses out there as I mentioned."
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  {
    "start": 676.94,
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    "text": "If you wanna support them right now,\nyou can do that."
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  {
    "start": 680.76,
    "end": 683.96,
    "text": "Buy Plus, buy Catalyst, buy"
  },
  {
    "start": 684.18,
    "end": 687.93,
    "text": "Refactoring UI, which\nis a book co-authored by"
  },
  {
    "start": 688.0,
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    "text": "Adam which I also bought which is amazing,\nis all about how to"
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    "text": "Support them like this if you want to\nand if you can afford it, of"
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    "text": "course, because, yeah, otherwise AI might"
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  },
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    "text": "useful and that's not really what we want,\nI guess."
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