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    "text": "This episode is provided by Thomas Allgaier and Fennis, based on the most relevant LinkedIn posts about artificial intelligence from calendar weeks five and six."
  },
  {
    "start": 8.9,
    "end": 18.78,
    "text": "Fennis supports enterprises with market-and competitive intelligence decoding emerging technologies customer insights regulatory shifts and competitor strategies."
  },
  {
    "start": 19.08,
    "end": 24.12,
    "text": "so product teams and strategy leaders don't just react but shape the future of AI."
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  {
    "start": 24.66,
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    "text": "And welcome back to The Deep Dive."
  },
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    "start": 26.54,
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    "text": "We're looking at the top AI trends from LinkedIn for weeks five"
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  {
    "start": 37.86,
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    "text": "and six,"
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  {
    "start": 49.66,
    "end": 51.02,
    "text": "How do we actually run this thing?"
  },
  {
    "start": 51.1,
    "end": 51.48,
    "text": "Exactly."
  },
  {
    "start": 51.56,
    "end": 53.72,
    "text": "how Do We Run This Without Breaking The Entire Company?"
  },
  {
    "start": 53.94,
    "end": 60.42,
    "text": "That's the signal I'm getting to, the height is maturing and it being replaced by these really serious structural discussions."
  },
  {
    "start": 60.46,
    "end": 66.66,
    "text": "were talking agentic AI Rigorous Governance And you know...the actual human cost of all this."
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    "start": 67.1,
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    "text": "Okay so let's dig into that first massive theme Agentic AI."
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  {
    "start": 72.4,
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    "text": "I feel like Agent Is The Buzzword Of The Year So Far But It's Getting A Bit Messy"
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    "start": 76.6,
    "end": 76.98,
    "text": "It is."
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    "start": 77.28,
    "end": 80.18,
    "text": "Luckily, Reed Blackman posted something to try and clear the air..."
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    "start": 80.46,
    "end": 81.3,
    "text": "Which was much needed!"
  },
  {
    "start": 81.64,
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    "text": "...it"
  },
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    "start": 81.78,
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    "text": "WAS."
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    "start": 82.58,
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    "text": "He basically argues that a true agent isn't just chatbot with an LLM core."
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    "start": 87.08,
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    "text": "it needs two other things Access to tools The internet Your CRM whatever And crucially autonomy."
  },
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    "start": 94.96,
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    "text": "Autonomy, that's the big scary word right?"
  },
  {
    "start": 97.18,
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    "text": "It's The Absolute Differentiator."
  },
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    "start": 99.04,
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    "text": "you don't give an agent a step-by-step list."
  },
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    "start": 100.86,
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    "text": "You Give it A Goal get me to London by Tuesday for under a thousand dollars!"
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    "start": 105.12,
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    "text": "The Agent has To figure out how in makes the plan"
  },
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    "start": 107.78,
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    "text": "and That fits with How."
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    "start": 108.58,
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    "text": "Chris Donnelly broke it all down."
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    "start": 110.02,
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    "text": "he laid Out these seven layers of AI maturity And He put a Gentic AI way up at Step six."
  },
  {
    "start": 115.86,
    "end": 116.0,
    "text": "Makes"
  },
  {
    "start": 116.04,
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    "text": "That Really Key Distinction doesn't?"
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    "start": 117.46,
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    "text": "He does its The Difference Between An AI Agent Which Just Executes a Task and a Gentick AI where the system sets its own sub-goals and adapts."
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    "start": 126.14,
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    "text": "Right, it's a worker you manage not just to tool your use."
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    "start": 129.6,
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    "text": "And that leads straight into the problem Andreas Horn was talking about."
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    "start": 133.02,
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    "text": "He says building the agent itself is actually becoming the easy part."
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    "start": 137.5,
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    "text": "The hard part is, the operating model?"
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    "start": 139.14,
    "end": 139.54,
    "text": "Exactly!"
  },
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    "start": 140.72,
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    "text": "You can't just bolt an autonomous agent onto a legacy siloed company structure and hope for the best."
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    "start": 146.94,
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    "text": "Who even owns it at that point?"
  },
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    "start": 148.48,
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    "text": "who's responsible?"
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    "start": 149.24,
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    "text": "you need ownership controls escalation paths."
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  {
    "start": 152.72,
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    "text": "all That boring stuff has to come first."
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    "start": 154.78,
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    "text": "speaking of controls I really like the piece from John E John Godel."
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    "start": 158.6,
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    "text": "he called agents govern digital labor."
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  {
    "start": 161.4,
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    "text": "Great phrase."
  },
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    "start": 162.38,
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    "text": "Isn't"
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    "text": "it?"
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    "start": 163.58,
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    "text": "And he says an agent needs four things autonomy, but with constraints tools verification and this thing He called state across time"
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    "start": 172.24,
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    "text": "in that stayed-acrossed time part is so important."
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    "start": 174.76,
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    "text": "It means memory."
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    "start": 175.9,
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    "text": "we're moving away from stateless chats where the bot forgets you instantly."
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    "start": 180.32,
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    "text": "State means it remembers the context from last week"
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    "start": 183.0,
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    "text": "turns a one off transaction into an actual relationship."
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    "start": 186.28,
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    "text": "It does, but his modern agent stack goes deeper."
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    "start": 190.3,
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    "text": "He talks about an orchestration layer for managing retries and you know failures...and a verification layer."
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    "start": 197.62,
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    "text": "The verification layer sounds like the safety net."
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    "start": 199.76,
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    "text": "it's more than a safety net its QA!"
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    "start": 202.42,
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    "text": "It basically stops the agent and asks prove You did the thing I asked?"
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    "start": 207.24,
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    "text": "It validates the output so the agent can't just hallucinate that it completed a task"
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    "text": "without that."
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    "start": 212.92,
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    "text": "Well, you get what Romana Roth was sharing about that open claw project."
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    "start": 216.02,
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    "text": "Ah"
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  {
    "start": 216.44,
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    "text": "yes the Project out of Vienna That was"
  },
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    "start": 219.56,
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    "text": "something else."
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    "start": 220.06,
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    "text": "Something else is one way to put it."
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    "start": 221.32,
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    "text": "so It's this opensource project and The agents."
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    "text": "they created their own social network moldbook"
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    "start": 227.3,
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    "text": "And they didn't just You know trade data."
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    "start": 230.12,
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    "text": "No They started debating philosophy and then in This Is the wild part?"
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    "text": "They formed a digital religion"
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    "text": "Crusty ferianism crusty"
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    "text": "ferienism!"
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    "start": 238.36,
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    "text": "You cannot make this stuff up."
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    "start": 239.68,
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    "text": "We have bots inventing religions."
  },
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    "start": 242.24,
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    "text": "Sounds funny, and it is."
  },
  {
    "start": 243.62,
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    "text": "but the point is so serious."
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    "start": 245.28,
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    "text": "It's emergent behavior."
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    "start": 246.74,
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    "text": "You give agents autonomy in a social space And they will do things you never program them to do"
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    "start": 251.66,
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    "text": "Which is terrifying."
  },
  {
    "start": 252.7,
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    "text": "if your bank?"
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    "start": 254.3,
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    "text": "You Do not want your trading bot finding religion mid-trade"
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  {
    "start": 257.94,
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    "text": "Not at all!"
  },
  {
    "start": 259.24,
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    "text": "which brings us back To The Business World."
  },
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    "start": 261.44,
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    "text": "Armand Ruiz had A good take."
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    "start": 263.0,
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    "text": "He said we should treat these Agents like digital employees."
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    "start": 265.9,
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    "text": "Give Them Names Faces Accountability."
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    "start": 268.08,
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    "text": "Its"
  },
  {
    "start": 268.16,
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    "text": "a psychological trick right...to build trust"
  },
  {
    "start": 270.24,
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    "text": "Yeah..And integrate them."
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    "start": 271.7,
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    "text": "And that idea, moving from a tool to a co-worker is the perfect bridge to our second theme."
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    "start": 278.22,
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    "text": "Governance security and risk."
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    "start": 280.58,
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    "text": "Because if you have a digital employee You have employee level risk."
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    "start": 284.74,
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    "text": "Steve Neury warned."
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    "start": 285.76,
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    "text": "we're still thinking about security like it's twenty twenty two."
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    "start": 288.38,
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    "text": "We were worried about model saying bad"
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  {
    "start": 290.66,
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    "text": "word Right!"
  },
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    "start": 291.28,
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    "text": "We are stuck on prompt injection."
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    "start": 293.22,
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    "text": "But Steve's point is you wouldn't let a junior ops manager just roam your systems with no supervision."
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    "text": "These agents are triggering refunds, reading emails."
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    "start": 301.24,
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    "text": "the risk isn't The chat answer it's the action."
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    "start": 303.84,
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    "text": "It took five steps before that"
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    "start": 305.7,
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    "text": "and Aylen Hodge backs That up."
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    "start": 307.54,
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    "text": "she says autonomy changes the risk profile completely."
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    "start": 310.96,
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    "text": "our existing governance frameworks weren't built for Systems that write their own instructions."
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    "start": 315.08,
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    "text": "You can audit code?"
  },
  {
    "start": 316.06,
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    "text": "That hasn't been written yet"
  },
  {
    "start": 317.36,
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    "text": "exactly And the regulators are not waiting around."
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    "start": 320.12,
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    "text": "Robert Jacque made it clear AI act governance isn't a tech problem anymore."
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    "start": 326.88,
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    "text": "It's a board architecture question,"
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    "start": 328.4,
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    "text": "it's a boredom Question and Victor Sankin was even more blunt especially for startups."
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    "start": 333.02,
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    "text": "the big risk is what if we fail?"
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    "text": "compliance Is now market access in Europe."
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    "start": 340.72,
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    "text": "We saw have really sharp example of why this is happening."
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    "text": "Nicola Meadows shared a post about grok The tool from xai"
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    "start": 348.24,
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    "text": "a critical case study."
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    "text": "the post detailed how grok's lack of guardrails Which they sort of marketed as a future or"
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    "start": 354.16,
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    "text": "rebellious streak, or something."
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    "start": 355.58,
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    "text": "Yeah"
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    "start": 356.38,
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    "text": "It led to the generation Of non consensual intimate imagery and apparently even see sam."
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    "start": 361.58,
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    "text": "that's"
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    "start": 362.0,
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    "start": 363.0,
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    "text": "it takes this out of the realm of regulatory burden And into actual real-world"
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    "start": 368.08,
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    "text": "harm."
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    "start": 368.46,
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    "text": "It does!"
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    "start": 369.42,
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    "text": "And it proves why safety by design is now illegal requirement under things like the uk online safety act Just an option you can toggle off."
  },
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    "start": 377.44,
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    "text": "Okay, so let's talk about solutions."
  },
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    "start": 378.96,
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    "text": "We can't just stare at the problem."
  },
  {
    "start": 380.92,
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    "text": "Magdalena Piccoli yellow shared a really practical idea called a privacy filter."
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    "start": 385.44,
    "end": 386.0,
    "text": "This is clever."
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    "text": "The ID is instead of sending your sensitive data to the AI You swap it for codes first."
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    "start": 392.04,
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    "text": "So it never sees John Smith social security number It just sees user twelve two three four secret five six seven eight."
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    "start": 400.02,
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    "text": "precisely The AI processes the logic on the codes, and then your internal system swaps the real data back in when the answer returns."
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    "text": "It's a technical solution to a legal"
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    "start": 409.62,
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    "text": "problem.\"."
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    "text": "And on the process side, DeWitt Gibson talked about allowing AI risk register... \"...the"
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    "start": 414.52,
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    "text": "keyword there is living!"
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    "start": 416.22,
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    "text": "It's not a PDF you create in January and forget-about."
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    "start": 419.38,
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    "text": "it has to be a single source of truth that's constantly updated because the agent's behavior is constantly changing...\"."
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    "start": 424.9,
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    "text": "Okay I want to shift gears to our third theme."
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    "start": 426.84,
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    "text": "we've got What about the people?"
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    "start": 429.92,
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    "start": 430.94,
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    "text": "workforce?\"."
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  {
    "start": 431.56,
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    "text": "Right, where The Rubber Meets The Road."
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    "start": 433.08,
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    "text": "Martin"
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    "start": 433.32,
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    "text": "Miller pointed out something really counterintuitive."
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    "start": 436.32,
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    "text": "We all assume AI reduces our workload."
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    "start": 439.24,
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    "text": "That's the whole sales bench."
  },
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    "start": 440.28,
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    "text": "he says Maybe not."
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    "start": 441.88,
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    "text": "He was looking at HBR data And logic is that AI lowers friction to start a task."
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  {
    "start": 446.82,
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    "text": "So what do we take on?"
  },
  {
    "start": 447.94,
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    "text": "more work and broader roles"
  },
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    "start": 449.9,
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    "start": 452.46,
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    "text": "creep"
  },
  {
    "start": 452.94,
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    "text": "Exactly!"
  },
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    "start": 453.92,
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    "text": "You get burnout Not because tools are bad But because the natural friction that used to pace our day is just gone."
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    "start": 460.92,
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    "text": "That connects to a psychological point from Faisal Hokey, he brought up the Ikea effect"
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    "text": "and If AI does all of building We might lose satisfaction saying i did this."
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    "start": 476.38,
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    "text": "We have to shift our sense of value from creation, I guess orchestration."
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    "start": 482.0,
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    "text": "And"
  },
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    "start": 482.1,
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    "text": "that's a huge shift!"
  },
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    "start": 483.02,
    "end": 484.14,
    "text": "James Shotten talked about this."
  },
  {
    "start": 484.2,
    "end": 489.66,
    "text": "for project managers he said the PM role is moving away just from task coordination and scheduling... The groundwork?"
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  {
    "start": 489.84,
    "end": 490.4,
    "text": "Yeah."
  },
  {
    "start": 490.78,
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    "text": "...and moving towards becoming"
  },
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    "start": 492.3,
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    "start": 492.96,
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    "text": "SenseMaker..I like them."
  },
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    "start": 493.96,
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    "text": "they're not just tracking in chart but interpreting what AI is telling us exactly"
  },
  {
    "start": 498.26,
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    "text": "right."
  },
  {
    "start": 498.72,
    "end": 500.46,
    "text": "And for developers, it's even more specific."
  },
  {
    "start": 500.9,
    "end": 503.18,
    "text": "Werner Heistek introduced us to Harry."
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    "start": 505.08,
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    "start": 505.7,
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    "text": "Harry is the guy who wrote that critical piece of legacy code in two thousand nine."
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    "start": 509.56,
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    "text": "That whole business still runs on"
  },
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    "start": 511.0,
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    "text": "and no one dares touch"
  },
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    "start": 512.38,
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    "text": "right?"
  },
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    "start": 512.86,
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    "text": "And Werner point Is that AI great at writing new code but It really struggles To integrate with harrys undocumented messy system."
  },
  {
    "start": 521.34,
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    "text": "so ai isn't replacing harry anytime soon."
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    "text": "You can just prompt your way out of fifteen years of technical debt."
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    "text": "Not yet anyway."
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    "text": "On the topic of prompting though, Ali K Miller had a great practical tip."
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    "text": "She calls them context docs."
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    "text": "This is such a good productivity hack."
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    "text": "Instead of re-explaining who you are to the AI."
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    "text": "A cheat code for personalization."
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    "text": "It's like"
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    "text": "giving an AI user manual immediately improves output."
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    "text": "So let us zoom out infrastructure for a minute."
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    "text": "Kunal Kushiwaha was talking about Oracle new database."
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    "start": 569.68,
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    "text": "This is a really important plumbing shift."
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    "start": 572.22,
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    "text": "The old way was moving your data to the AI, you'd pull it out of your secure database send it off get the answer back."
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    "start": 579.1,
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    "text": "It's slow and risky"
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  {
    "start": 580.34,
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    "text": "and expensive"
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  {
    "start": 580.94,
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    "text": "very!"
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    "start": 581.9,
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    "text": "The new model is AI coming to the data."
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    "start": 584.46,
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    "text": "You run the models inside the database itself its faster And your data never leaves that secure environment."
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    "start": 590.76,
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    "text": "That feels like a sovereignty move too which connects to what Stephanel and Francois Bossier were saying from a European perspective."
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    "start": 597.92,
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    "text": "They are making really strong case that for European sovereignty, companies have to pivot open source infrastructure instead of just relying on US black boxes."
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    "start": 608.38,
    "end": 611.52,
    "text": "Don't rent your AI coworkers from someone else Exactly!"
  },
  {
    "start": 611.72,
    "end": 615.22,
    "text": "On the stack Which brings us full circle control."
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    "start": 615.66,
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    "text": "Whether it's a verification layer for an agent, privacy filter data or open source infrastructure..."
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    "start": 621.3,
    "end": 622.3,
    "text": "It is the through line isn't?"
  },
  {
    "start": 622.36,
    "end": 624.16,
    "text": "we are moving from magic to control?"
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  {
    "start": 625.08,
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    "text": "We're finally doing hard boring work of integration and treating AI like actual enterprise strategy."
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    "start": 631.6,
    "end": 642.68,
    "text": "So put all together We have agents inventing religions, regulators demanding board-level accountability and a workforce that might be burning out from AI fuel productivity."
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    "start": 642.82,
    "end": 645.2,
    "text": "It sounds chaotic but it's a sign of maturity."
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    "start": 645.38,
    "end": 647.0,
    "text": "we're asking the right questions now."
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  {
    "start": 647.32,
    "end": 649.06,
    "text": "So what is take away for you listening to this?"
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  {
    "start": 649.44,
    "end": 653.96,
    "text": "I think your value in shifting from being creator To governor."
  },
  {
    "start": 654.44,
    "end": 660.68,
    "text": "Your job is orchestrate these systems to verify their work And make sure they align with human goals."
  },
  {
    "start": 661.4,
    "end": 664.78,
    "text": "You're the human in a loop that is getting faster and faster."
  },
  {
    "start": 665.0,
    "end": 667.12,
    "text": "And you have to watch out for that silent workload creep?"
  },
  {
    "start": 667.32,
    "end": 667.86,
    "text": "Definitely!"
  },
  {
    "start": 668.7,
    "end": 671.94,
    "text": "Here's a final thought to Chewan, we talked about autonomous agents."
  },
  {
    "start": 672.42,
    "end": 681.44,
    "text": "if an agent on its own executes a task that makes the company money but also creates a massive legal liability who gets the bonus...and goes to jail?"
  },
  {
    "start": 681.68,
    "end": 683.42,
    "text": "Now THAT IS THE QUESTION OF THE DECADE, ISN'T IT?"
  },
  {
    "start": 683.78,
    "end": 685.76,
    "text": "I don't think anyone has good answer yet."
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    "start": 685.96,
    "end": 688.9,
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    "start": 697.88,
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