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    "text": "Gossip Girl, the podcast about all things hair."
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    "text": "Hi and welcome back to another episode of Gossip Curl, The Podcasts About All Things Hair!"
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    "start": 19.12,
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    "text": "My name is Hadna Tisphi."
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    "text": "I am your host And today we will be talking how to style Your hair."
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  {
    "start": 28.42,
    "end": 35.64,
    "text": "We're gonna get into it...and i'm not by myself..I have help because Im quite okay with hair but im no expert."
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  {
    "start": 36.12,
    "end": 38.64,
    "text": "But he sure definitely is."
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  {
    "start": 39.06,
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    "text": "please welcome Nick Irwin."
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  {
    "start": 41.4,
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    "text": "Hi, Nick!"
  },
  {
    "start": 42.04,
    "end": 42.18,
    "text": "Hey"
  },
  {
    "start": 42.28,
    "end": 45.0,
    "text": "Adna I'm so thrilled to be here...I"
  },
  {
    "start": 45.08,
    "end": 46.3,
    "text": "am so happy that you were here"
  },
  {
    "start": 46.46,
    "end": 46.94,
    "text": "with"
  },
  {
    "start": 46.98,
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    "text": "us and you came all the way from London to sit with us."
  },
  {
    "start": 49.7,
    "end": 53.88,
    "text": "yeah i've flown in from london and um yeah he especially purely for the podcast."
  },
  {
    "start": 53.92,
    "end": 55.46,
    "text": "so i'm super excited to be hear."
  },
  {
    "start": 55.62,
    "end": 56.66,
    "text": "what an honor"
  },
  {
    "start": 56.96,
    "end": 57.36,
    "text": "thank you."
  },
  {
    "start": 57.5,
    "end": 57.88,
    "text": "i wanted to"
  },
  {
    "start": 58.18,
    "end": 58.32,
    "text": "nick."
  },
  {
    "start": 58.4,
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    "text": "before we start talking about styling hair let's talk about yourself real quick."
  },
  {
    "start": 63.4,
    "end": 66.78,
    "text": "right because I've"
  },
  {
    "start": 68.0,
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    "text": "been doing hair for forty plus years."
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  {
    "start": 70.839,
    "end": 71.259,
    "text": "No way!"
  },
  {
    "start": 71.32,
    "end": 73.119,
    "text": "Yeah, so literally and... I"
  },
  {
    "start": 73.339,
    "end": 74.479,
    "text": "mean you're only thirty-five."
  },
  {
    "start": 74.539,
    "end": 76.259,
    "text": "Well thank you very much, I wish."
  },
  {
    "start": 76.42,
    "end": 77.32,
    "text": "and the rest."
  },
  {
    "start": 77.72,
    "end": 81.82,
    "text": "but i started four..I was fourteen years old funny enough still at school."
  },
  {
    "start": 83.02,
    "end": 85.699,
    "text": "long story father was getting into trouble a little bit at school."
  },
  {
    "start": 85.74,
    "end": 88.559,
    "text": "my father's like he must go work with a friend of mine who has a salon."
  },
  {
    "start": 89.42,
    "end": 95.179,
    "text": "that first day realized this would be my profession if you liked For The Rest Of My Life just fell in love."
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  {
    "start": 95.3,
    "end": 96.039,
    "text": "it from Day One."
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    "start": 97.38,
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    "text": "You started when you were fourteen years old, what did you do?"
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  {
    "start": 100.86,
    "end": 103.16,
    "text": "What would you at the salon when your fourteen."
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  {
    "start": 104.039,
    "end": 117.92,
    "text": "Like probably most people going into that age we talked to obviously sweep floor make coffees and make sure the saloon was amazing all of those things but then quickly became shampooing hair."
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  {
    "start": 118.86,
    "end": 124.14,
    "text": "So yeah, once you get that sort of thing of touching hair and that connection... That human connection."
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  {
    "start": 124.619,
    "end": 127.86,
    "text": "That's when you realise this is something very special."
  },
  {
    "start": 128.22,
    "end": 128.34,
    "text": "Can"
  },
  {
    "start": 128.38,
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    "text": "you tell me what exactly it is that excites you about doing here?"
  },
  {
    "start": 132.82,
    "end": 133.32,
    "text": "Oh wow!"
  },
  {
    "start": 133.44,
    "end": 150.32,
    "text": "That a really wide question because I think ultimately well its different now than probably was then the initial draw to it making people feel happy that instant response And also because you're operating on a very different level."
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  {
    "start": 150.38,
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    "text": "It's not just the physical side of what you are doing, but there is that sort of emotional attachment and also that psychological thing when your working with a client And so I think originally it becomes very addictive wanting to please people make them feel or look good."
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  {
    "start": 164.88,
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    "text": "So That was the initial draw and i still don't think thats primarily why all we love doing."
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  {
    "start": 169.66,
    "end": 173.56,
    "text": "But now as they say its what do session stylist?"
  },
  {
    "start": 173.62,
    "end": 180.74,
    "text": "in working across fashion and advertising you are trying to please a different type of person."
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  {
    "start": 180.8,
    "end": 185.24,
    "text": "It tends to be the client who's booking for your job, so it is a different situation these days."
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  {
    "start": 185.4,
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    "text": "Can you tell"
  },
  {
    "start": 185.94,
    "end": 188.98,
    "text": "me what Session Stylist does?"
  },
  {
    "start": 189.94,
    "end": 190.84,
    "text": "So its very simple."
  },
  {
    "start": 190.94,
    "end": 205.22,
    "text": "I mean i think you've got session stylist with somebody that is professionally trained but then comes out from working behind chair in salon and you will primarily work behind camera ,behind scenes."
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  {
    "start": 206.14,
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    "text": "It can be anything."
  },
  {
    "start": 207.0,
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    "text": "He was quite wide."
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  {
    "start": 207.96,
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    "text": "from working in fashion, working and advertising you know... Working across maybe I don't know the music?"
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  {
    "start": 215.1,
    "end": 223.46,
    "text": "The arts lots of different areas but it's definitely somebody more behind-the-scenes i think rather than in a salon work in front of a mirror."
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  {
    "start": 225.38,
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    "text": "So when we are here to talk about styling that's where you come in, right?"
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  {
    "start": 233.38,
    "end": 235.6,
    "text": "Because you have styled all kinds of hair."
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  {
    "start": 236.12,
    "end": 240.24,
    "text": "You've done it for photo shoots, you've done It for fashion shows...you've done IT FOR EVERYTHING!"
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    "start": 241.82,
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    "text": "When it comes to styling what do YOU think is THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL THING?"
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  {
    "start": 248.66,
    "end": 252.1,
    "text": "Let's say you have clean hair and washed your hair."
  },
  {
    "start": 252.94,
    "end": 261.3,
    "text": "we had a full episode on Wash Days And what is it that you have to keep in mind taken from there?"
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  {
    "start": 261.72,
    "end": 269.02,
    "text": "I think we should always understand first of all, your hair type and the texture."
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  {
    "start": 271.48,
    "end": 290.86,
    "text": "How fine or how does it adapt or react to certain things like drying their hair using products... get it into a place of understanding what your hair is, whether straight curly wavy you know with any of those sort of textures."
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    "start": 291.28,
    "end": 302.66,
    "text": "Then its much easier to then start your regime if you like off how to go from obviously washed pre post-washed hair To then styling it to get the end result."
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    "start": 303.74,
    "end": 310.04,
    "text": "It's interesting because I think my thing now just to sort of rewind back a little bit."
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    "start": 310.72,
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    "text": "We talked obviously about the shampooing and conditioning of hair, but when I look at somebody my thing always is hands for sorry eyes first hand second...I Always want to see what their hair does naturally To then understand What i need to do?"
  },
  {
    "start": 326.52,
    "end": 329.62,
    "text": "To take it to the Obviously whatever result we're trying to do on there."
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  {
    "start": 330.3,
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    "text": "So When you say your are at a fashion show And obviously There's a briefing that you got, right?"
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  {
    "start": 337.24,
    "end": 346.76,
    "text": "You're going for specific look but say...you work with someone who just sits down and says make me the best version of myself."
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  {
    "start": 347.12,
    "end": 350.16,
    "text": "Right which is ultimately what we are all trying to do at home."
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    "start": 350.76,
    "end": 352.5,
    "text": "We look in the mirror kind like okay."
  },
  {
    "start": 352.66,
    "end": 357.98,
    "text": "so this I have on my head..I understand best case scenario."
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  {
    "start": 358.12,
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    "text": "Anyways, I understood the texture before and use products when washing it."
  },
  {
    "start": 362.48,
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    "text": "that kind of like support."
  },
  {
    "start": 364.0,
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    "text": "whatever i'm trying to go for right um... And then-and then..I looked at it."
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  {
    "start": 369.9,
    "end": 373.46,
    "text": "so what you do is You just look at in a wet state?"
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  {
    "start": 376.78,
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    "text": "Then What?"
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  {
    "start": 386.82,
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    "text": "after you've conditioned the hair with it, with a conditioner."
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    "start": 389.32,
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    "text": "You might use something like some form of protein spray that will help sort of coat their hair shaft and give you a nice clean base to then start layering products with again."
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    "start": 401.8,
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    "text": "It depends on the type of hair where you want to take it."
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  {
    "start": 404.88,
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    "text": "Some hair needs a lot of product To be able really manipulate the texture."
  },
  {
    "start": 409.28,
    "end": 417.42,
    "text": "Take into place say if your working which has got a very strong texture, like a curl to it or you need to use something that is more moisturizing."
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    "start": 418.5,
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    "text": "Then if you strip back your hair thats maybe less dense and finer then type of styling products that you would use, and the amount that you reduce to then get into the next phase drying it or whatever."
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    "start": 434.92,
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    "text": "You're trying to do..."
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    "start": 435.76,
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    "text": "Okay so say you have really fine hair right?"
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    "start": 440.18,
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    "text": "Straight-fine hair."
  },
  {
    "start": 443.3,
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    "text": "is it safe to say I have to use less product on that hair?"
  },
  {
    "start": 449.48,
    "end": 453.26,
    "text": "It depends what your eventually try to aim for."
  },
  {
    "start": 453.38,
    "end": 464.16,
    "text": "if If you're blowing the hair out and want your hair to feel thicker, more abundant then we need something that's going to swell our hair texture."
  },
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    "start": 464.64,
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    "text": "Products are really advanced now."
  },
  {
    "start": 466.4,
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    "text": "I mean when i first started doing hair there was four or five basic products."
  },
  {
    "start": 470.7,
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    "text": "everything is built around them."
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  {
    "start": 471.96,
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    "text": "Now We have so much choice And The technology in products."
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  {
    "start": 475.9,
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    "text": "Really it just finding the correct product for your hair type."
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  {
    "start": 479.94,
    "end": 486.72,
    "text": "So if You Want If you were to say, for instance... And there's a bit of myth with putting product in fine hair."
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  {
    "start": 486.96,
    "end": 488.84,
    "text": "I think yes."
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    "start": 489.7,
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    "text": "if you want something quite sleek and keep it straight.. ..and don't really add any volume then probably need not use a lot of products."
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  {
    "start": 499.12,
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    "text": "But like i said blow the hair out!"
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    "start": 502.78,
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    "text": "You want something that feels thicker or more voluminous."
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    "start": 505.88,
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    "text": "Then things like great mousse a great blow drying spray anything that's going to really plump the texture."
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  {
    "start": 513.72,
    "end": 516.24,
    "text": "so when you and some of these products are heat activated."
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  {
    "start": 516.32,
    "end": 521.799,
    "text": "So once you start with your hair dryer then off, I'm starting to dry their hair that product will work into they hand."
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  {
    "start": 521.84,
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    "text": "it'll give me."
  },
  {
    "start": 522.82,
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    "text": "we'll get started giving volume."
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  {
    "start": 528.28,
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    "text": "fear that people with finer hair have, like oh if I put in too much it's gonna weigh down my hair is actually not necessarily true."
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  {
    "start": 537.24,
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    "text": "It isn't necessary and i think it depends on what the product is."
  },
  {
    "start": 540.52,
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    "text": "If you had very fine hair and wanted to use something more serum based or an oil I would avoid putting a lot of those products completely."
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  {
    "start": 557.46,
    "end": 559.34,
    "text": "Again, it depends on where you want to take."
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  {
    "start": 559.42,
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    "text": "I think you've got be very careful of anything that's lightweight so a blow-drying spray or sort of light weight mousse feels quite airy and the minute start putting heavy thick products like cream based product oil."
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  {
    "start": 579.58,
    "end": 583.6,
    "text": "in that kind world then you need to be careful with finer textured hair"
  },
  {
    "start": 584.9,
    "end": 590.28,
    "text": "Moving on to the more like medium thick hair, right?"
  },
  {
    "start": 591.72,
    "end": 594.64,
    "text": "If I have... Like i consider myself not me personally."
  },
  {
    "start": 594.7,
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    "text": "Let's say some of our listeners or viewers-I don't know whatever your thing is are at home and going looking at their hair."
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  {
    "start": 604.68,
    "end": 605.78,
    "text": "go in like oh!"
  },
  {
    "start": 606.44,
    "end": 607.22,
    "text": "normal hair."
  },
  {
    "start": 608.24,
    "end": 609.3,
    "text": "What is normal here?"
  },
  {
    "start": 609.46,
    "end": 610.8,
    "text": "Yeah, I know what it's like right now."
  },
  {
    "start": 610.96,
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    "text": "we were talking about this earlier"
  },
  {
    "start": 613.04,
    "end": 621.2,
    "text": "but they say okay listen there's not much texture to my hair because i think texture changes the game quite significantly."
  },
  {
    "start": 621.62,
    "end": 631.1,
    "text": "as soon as you have texture in your hair The products that you have to use are totally different and whatever style You're trying to achieve also kind of difference."
  },
  {
    "start": 632.16,
    "end": 632.6,
    "text": "Good news."
  },
  {
    "start": 633.02,
    "end": 638.86,
    "text": "We have a session coming up, we'll have an episode coming up that deals with textured hair exclusively."
  },
  {
    "start": 638.96,
    "end": 640.96,
    "text": "it's coming don't worry about it-we got you!"
  },
  {
    "start": 641.18,
    "end": 642.0,
    "text": "We didn't forget about you."
  },
  {
    "start": 642.44,
    "end": 644.16,
    "text": "uh after all this is gossip curl."
  },
  {
    "start": 644.2,
    "end": 652.76,
    "text": "um but going back to that say I have like straight hair and i want to keep it straight...I don't want to have too much movement in it."
  },
  {
    "start": 653.58,
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    "text": "how many products do I need?"
  },
  {
    "start": 656.34,
    "end": 658.52,
    "text": "Well can ... I'm so sorry.. I have one more question"
  },
  {
    "start": 659.06,
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    "text": "Do"
  },
  {
    "start": 659.7,
    "end": 660.52,
    "text": "I Need Heat?"
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  {
    "start": 661.38,
    "end": 664.46,
    "text": "Yes Well, yes and no."
  },
  {
    "start": 664.78,
    "end": 674.4,
    "text": "I think again it all depends... It's a very wide area when you're sort of getting to that mid-part density of the hair."
  },
  {
    "start": 674.62,
    "end": 676.54,
    "text": "It depends on if is it a curl or wave?"
  },
  {
    "start": 676.58,
    "end": 678.36,
    "text": "Is still straights as course hair."
  },
  {
    "start": 678.9,
    "end": 683.28,
    "text": "Do you have hair that might be gray and some of your white hairs are coming through?"
  },
  {
    "start": 683.32,
    "end": 684.3,
    "text": "So it changes the texture."
  },
  {
    "start": 684.34,
    "end": 684.6,
    "text": "I don't"
  },
  {
    "start": 684.76,
    "end": 686.04,
    "text": "know, why do I feel a tech by that?"
  },
  {
    "start": 686.22,
    "end": 687.24,
    "text": "No, just think"
  },
  {
    "start": 687.28,
    "end": 687.8,
    "text": "about it."
  },
  {
    "start": 687.84,
    "end": 689.66,
    "text": "You get great hair coming through!"
  },
  {
    "start": 689.72,
    "end": 691.18,
    "text": "Yeah but...I mean..you can embrace grey."
  },
  {
    "start": 692.28,
    "end": 699.42,
    "text": "That's become very beautiful thing out there right now is we're embracing natural beauty more than ever done?"
  },
  {
    "start": 700.92,
    "end": 713.54,
    "text": "so There IS something for everybody And i think in terms of beauty going back to this sort Using products on that sort of head depends what again, it depends upon the end result is and what you need to do."
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    "start": 714.0,
    "end": 730.68,
    "text": "To achieve that from a starting product I would always go like i said earlier using a primer all ways on their hair no matter what the texture will be just to solidify conditioning elements that a lot of these products have built-in heat protectors."
  },
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    "start": 730.88,
    "end": 742.84,
    "text": "Okay, so if you are using the heat or even if you let my hair dry from and in a natural state it starts to allow you to control their hair as it dries might stop frizzing might help with humidity all those things."
  },
  {
    "start": 744.38,
    "end": 756.08,
    "text": "but I would think when getting into hair thats more medium in terms density i think we can start going probably cocktailing the product a bit more."
  },
  {
    "start": 756.14,
    "end": 769.52,
    "text": "so you could use a styling products and cream based or serum something together that will allow to maybe get volume, control hair but then the serum will add shine make it easy for your style."
  },
  {
    "start": 770.28,
    "end": 777.3,
    "text": "So yeah combine cocktail in that middle band we are talking about If that makes sense."
  },
  {
    "start": 777.42,
    "end": 778.3,
    "text": "It does, it doesn't."
  },
  {
    "start": 778.44,
    "end": 782.74,
    "text": "but the question is especially when it comes to combining products right?"
  },
  {
    "start": 783.28,
    "end": 786.58,
    "text": "How do I know if the products that i'm trying to combine work or not?"
  },
  {
    "start": 788.4,
    "end": 788.52,
    "text": "Ah!"
  },
  {
    "start": 788.76,
    "end": 798.94,
    "text": "That's a good one...I think if you stick to products within the family of who you're using they tend to and again lots are getting specific on any particular brand."
  },
  {
    "start": 799.78,
    "end": 807.0,
    "text": "But I think Any product house our company will always make things that we'll work together."
  },
  {
    "start": 807.64,
    "end": 812.54,
    "text": "they're not gonna bring out something that, I mean there is things like maybe might not necessarily go together."
  },
  {
    "start": 812.6,
    "end": 829.28,
    "text": "They might sort of butt heads if you like on the hair but I think this other areas where yes it tends to be like salt and pepper thing will come together and you can layer them cocktailing as a great thing with hair because then become a bit prescriptive."
  },
  {
    "start": 831.08,
    "end": 842.84,
    "text": "You can really start identify your own little formulation And you can figure that out yourself, or potentially go to a hair salon and get the hairdresser help you do."
  },
  {
    "start": 843.06,
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    "text": "A good hairstylist will know those little tips and tricks that allow us mix things together so we have an end result."
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    "text": "Let me rewind slightly because I think I've been doing hair a long time and i come from an era where if you go back forty years ago that it was very tribal, You knew by the way somebody wore their hair what kind of music they would like."
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    "text": "And something I feel very strongly about is that cloning people, it's just unachievable for a lot of people...I would do fashion shows where you'd send forty or fifty models down the runway with identical hair!"
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    "text": "Thank you for saying that, so... That's beautiful also because iIthinkit takes offthe pressureof people to achievea certain looksand have like five million productsfor tha- Absolutely!"
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    "text": "dial up stuff of that is what makes me really special and"
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    "text": "Or whoever it might be we're working on because they've been shot a lot there being teased and pulled in on a weekly daily weekly basis."
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    "text": "so that yeah... And I'm sure you go through this exactly but i was watching your hairstylist earlier do your hair and loved how it was all conditioning."
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    "start": 1857.0,
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    "text": "yes I think also The great thing nowadays Is like this again?"
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    "start": 1907.26,
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    "text": "have they gotten better as well?"
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    "text": "I feel like they haven't because i do remember the flat irons from the nineties who was like oh my god... I"
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    "text": "used to use these metal plated irons in the early nineties but were huge And it was like literally putting a clothing iron on the hair."
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    "text": "I mean, there were so bad for their hair and yeah... So you had no control of the temperature or any of those things saying that-and this will just sort of explore the myth a little bit."
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    "text": "You do need to take your hair to certain point with heat To lock in information."
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    "text": "A lot of people think this is opposite because they think your hair will just slowly heat up."
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    "start": 2000.5,
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    "text": "But is there, if you're only using a high temperature and say you put some hairspray on the head to protect it or to help lock in the information."
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    "text": "Right?"
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    "start": 2007.54,
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    "text": "And then do it quick... right Then it doesn't give time for that heat to really penetrate- You know.. Really damage their hair."
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    "text": "That will hopefully lock your curl of movement or wave or straightening the hair much faster and get better results."
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    "start": 2064.52,
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    "text": "Thickness is medium and i did say I used a wand right And Im trying maintain the style but im realising."
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    "text": "okay day two I woke up its not looking great."
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    "start": 2106.979,
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    "start": 2108.1,
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    "text": "You"
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    "start": 2108.18,
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    "text": "give me combination of both."
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    "text": "I think it depends on how oily or greasy your hair's become, maybe if you're going to the gym."
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    "start": 2116.12,
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    "start": 2122.04,
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    "start": 2123.939,
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    "text": "now The dry shampoos are those sort of re-styler products which is more powder based."
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    "text": "That can really just give you an extra couple days And I think that's a really important thing as well, because we're living today."
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    "start": 2139.72,
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    "text": "We are going to go on to it."
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    "text": "It"
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    "text": "Way too often!"
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    "start": 2147.5,
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    "text": "Okay stop Nick cause i'm asking how many times can you use dry shampoo before someone looks dead in the eye and goes like..I think its time."
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    "start": 2157.939,
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    "text": "wash your hair honey with shampoo & water."
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    "start": 2163.259,
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    "text": "I would say a couple of days, two or three days."
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    "text": "If it's done correctly... I think if you're using something that is making the hair white and its quite powdery looking then you've got to be little bit careful because visually you can see it."
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    "start": 2174.04,
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    "text": "but great tip just put this product through and blasts your hair."
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    "text": "hopefully that residue will come out."
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    "start": 2180.56,
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    "start": 2182.899,
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    "text": "That'a good little tip."
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    "text": "and but you've gotta try and avoid that as best you can cause they just becomes.. You're just adding."
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    "text": "Can i blow dry?"
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    "start": 2229.0,
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    "start": 2231.04,
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    "text": "I Think Again It's all About Speed And I think if Your Spending Hours On Each Section of Hair and Trying To Read Dry Hair That'S Already Been Blow-Dried Yeah, I think you're going to damage the hair."
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    "start": 2242.939,
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    "text": "But like i said if quickly... If you want really revitalize your hair and get some new information or life into that hair then adding a little bit of that type of product is like a revitalizer or dry shampoo something."
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    "start": 2258.279,
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    "text": "so just give it to not re-moisturise but make it feel cleaner And use a hairdryer you know, reshape it or get into a style that your happy with."
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    "start": 2270.06,
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    "text": "Oh"
  },
  {
    "start": 2270.2,
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    "text": "my god I feel like Nick."
  },
  {
    "start": 2271.479,
    "end": 2273.899,
    "text": "we have just scratched the surface with this."
  },
  {
    "start": 2274.52,
    "end": 2283.7,
    "text": "there's so much more than what could talk about but our time is up and i want to thank you for sharing all of your wisdom in years of experience with us."
  },
  {
    "start": 2284.08,
    "end": 2284.339,
    "text": "Thank You!"
  },
  {
    "start": 2284.419,
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    "text": "And I know for sure that you're going be back"
  },
  {
    "start": 2287.839,
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    "text": "here"
  },
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    "start": 2288.279,
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    "text": "at Gotham"
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    "start": 2288.919,
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    "text": "Curl"
  },
  {
    "start": 2291.02,
    "end": 2299.419,
    "text": "An episode coming up that's dedicated to textured hair and textured hair only because the styling is kind of like touched on already for."
  },
  {
    "start": 2299.56,
    "end": 2302.56,
    "text": "That type of hair, it completely different."
  },
  {
    "start": 2302.62,
    "end": 2304.839,
    "text": "so make sure To come back for that."
  },
  {
    "start": 2305.379,
    "end": 2307.339,
    "text": "And thank you So much For being with us."
  },
  {
    "start": 2307.759,
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    "text": "I'm pretty Sure i don't have to hope."
  },
  {
    "start": 2309.66,
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    "text": "i'm Pretty sure."
  },
  {
    "start": 2310.66,
    "end": 2314.54,
    "text": "You learned a lot in todays Episode about Styling your Hair."
  },
  {
    "start": 2314.64,
    "end": 2315.68,
    "text": "How to work With Your Hair."
  },
  {
    "start": 2316.14,
    "end": 2318.299,
    "text": "First goes knowing your hair."
  },
  {
    "start": 2318.339,
    "end": 2320.62,
    "text": "Thankyou so Much for being with us."
  },
  {
    "start": 2321.0,
    "end": 2322.08,
    "text": "Nick, thank you so much... Thank you!"
  },
  {
    "start": 2322.14,
    "end": 2324.459,
    "text": "...for being here today and this was Gossip Curl."
  },
  {
    "start": 2324.5,
    "end": 2325.919,
    "text": "we'll see in the next episode."
  },
  {
    "start": 2326.22,
    "end": 2331.08,
    "text": "Ciao ciao!"
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